Even if you don't plan to attack them, using this tatic will slow their development as you keep them from taking Constantinople (or Byzantium, or Istanbul, if you will). East Africa is a great target. So what i prefer to do is basically base race my opponent and take down any forts blocking my way to their capital. Punch Syria out of them if you can. Edit: and why is my force limit only 73k when theirs is 175k :(. From there, you can also go back to the southern tip of Arabia and take out the states in Yemen there before youve dealt with the Mamluks in Arabia. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. Gotta love EU4 logic. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. Avoid tough wars by using Spains diplomatic commitments! with Castille/Aragon/England or smth. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, takeNaval Ideasto give yourself an edge. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this, The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. If you focus on taking down the Ottomans you can't be giving them respite. I would recommend defensive idea group and drill your armies !!!! You need to win those navy encounters fast. You wont gain cores on them, butDagestan is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. Everybody will then gang up on them afterwards, leading to a downward spiral. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. We need at least one province deep Persian territory Samarkand. They don't get an infantry upgrade at 15 like western nations do. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Helping out AI friends and building up long term rivalries and friendships can break the monotony. Try to disconnect their capital from asia. Valve Corporation. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is. I prefer to leave Ethiopia alone for most of the run, and simply conquer around them. If Albania is still around you can try the Skanderbeg strategy and whittle away their forces.Its much easier to do early game. The earlier you consolidate around here, the better it is for you. If Warscore is left make them pay war reperations (remember that you also get 10% from every loan they take, so rebuilding is a bit harder for them) and release countries. The Ottomans are very susceptible to blockades because they have such a big coastline. Yeah, they like doing that. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'm around the same size as the Ottomans now, but their total units are 173k compared to my 49k. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. Note: Be smart about who you declare war on. Later on, the Ottomans don't have janissaries and your units should be just as good as theirs. Next, focus on supporting rebels and destabilizing them. Fortunately, the Tunisians cant be everywhere at once. Late game their units really fall off and while they are numerous, they're squishy. Then you declare war on Byzantium a few years after 1444 and pray the Ottomans do so too after you. The next time they declare war on them, I will also declare war. If he goes for other nations, it's just easier for you to carpet siege all the forts you want. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. After that it can become too costly and dangerous to challenge them, up until 1750, when the game triggers them to decay. Quite manageable. From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. I've read several ways. This area is very wealthy and contains the Islamic Holy cities of Mekka and Medina. Youll also get an achievement to show off how great youve become at EU4: theDar al-Islam. Let me know your thoughts in the comments! Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. I might be able to get France on my side too. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. form italy (maybe with milan first cause of the sweet ideias), go quantity offensive defensive. Did you find this guide helpful, or did you run into trouble anywhere? I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. Naval superiority would be a good idea if you can get it against the Ottos, to try and prevent the bosphorus and dardanelles crossing. Aside from sealing off the Black Sea and connecting your territories, theres mostly no need for you to conquer anything north of the Caucasus mountains. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. needs you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. Itd give me a serious coalition I dont want to face yet. Thanks anyway :). If I put all of my allies into one battle (Me, France, Venice, Nogai, Genoa) then I might have a chance, but now I've had to dissolve the Venice alliance so I didn't get dragged into a war with just me and Venice. Who would win? Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. I'd probably invade Ottomans when they're busy fighting multiple wars and you might even be lucky enough for separatists to break off small chunks of their empire. Form Russia and own all of Asia by the end of 1820, defeat the Ottomans as Hungary and get Jerusalem and Mecca. I encountered some issues in my own run that couldve jeopardized the progress of this guide. Or, just annex Russia and use their force limit. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. Make sure you are not behind their mil tech level or you will be destroyed, as such it's recommended you weaken them early, They tend to pick a discipline advisor to combo with their 5% discipline tradition, recommend to get as much morale as you can, Use terrain/good generals to your advantage, Get as many good alliances as possible but never declare if they are behind the ottomans in mil tech, You can deny their cores, which is one of the main sources of their strength, You can call a crusade against them if you're the pope which can give you good bonuses. A no CB to vassalize Byzantium, followed by a straightforward war with ottomans to reclaim Byzantium cores is a popular move. In my game, I had a problem. Press J to jump to the feed. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. I usually like to set out goals. . I control most of Northern Africa and Central Europe. Good allies can be helpful to overwhelm them. Don't let them. Boats. Focus on taking away their economic base. Ottoman Empire became modern day Turkey lol. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. Then you peace out, take nothing and watch the rebels spawn. Welcome to the third and final part of this Ottomans guide for EU4: The Ottomans made easy! Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. The intent is for you to play along and improve your skills and understanding of the game, and have fun all the while! This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. . Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. Yeah, they aren't the scourge of Christendom for nothing. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifierCustodian of the Holy Cities. If you're lucky, you might start a dog pile. I just don't find it fun to always split my armies, siege a lot of provinces and then consolidate my forces. JavaScript is disabled. You can check the Ottoman's development and your own in the ledger, but a rough estimate based on experience and the dates you provided would put you at about ~500 development and the Ottomans at ~1000. In my game, Austria has been beaten down and is pretty tiny, Russia is getting slowly annexed by me and the Malmuks aren't doing much. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. You can also take some cash from these extremely wealthy merchant republics. This will often make them take the long way around the Black Sea in wars, slowing them down considerably. Cookie Notice . Now observe the situation. start again as france and take beter ideas and no CB byzantium early. Before declaring war, see if there are any vassals you can annex. Keep some stacks in Europe and the Middle-East, to combat any Spanish troops should they decide to do a naval invasion. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. One of the biggest flaws for the Ottos is that they're very spread out across three continents (most of the time) meaning they are pretty prone to splitting their forces. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. around 1510. The Ottoman army is pretty bad (compared to Europeans) after mil tech 15. Just tried this out but the blasted PLC AI was hell bent on losing and had to delete the save since I'd already given up half my country to separate peace Aragon. Make sure to at least take Pest for theBibliotheca Corvinanagreat project. Youll gain claims on this area with the missionConquer Mocha, that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to exp. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? While if they attack them with you not allied to said nation, it's that big country plus it's allies and then you can start a war with your allies against the Ottoman at the same time. What (military) ideas do you have? Might as well ask them to be your vassal! You also take 60%+ of their trade income with this deal. Ally other countries that have navies. The Otto's will refuse that peace deal, but suffer a stability hit. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. Last game i played as france and struggled to fight the ottoman military, simply from the overwhelming manpower. I smell a beefy QQ to their southeast, them declaring war would really shaft the Ottomans. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. If you share borders, build some forts and have some battles with -1/-2 modifiers. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) Play smart, have forts in mountains/hills/swamps. However, by the logic that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I reached out to a powerful historical ally of the Ottomans France makes a perfect ally in this scenario. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. The Mamluks control Egypt and Syria at the start of the game, but were historically conquered by the Ottomans in the 16th century. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing theJanissary Coupdisaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Take all the provinces you need for the Caliphate to finally realize the unification of Islam. In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. To add on to this: Another good time to strike would be right after an important military tech, especially if you can grab it a few years ahead of time. Tbh, quality troops will usually win wars against the Ottomans. Here are some of the issues I encountered, as well as how you can act on them, should the situation arise. Note :In The runs with Prussia and Great Britain I beat the Ottomans in the last 10-20 years of the campaign, And another thing that I forgot to mention. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). You can attack the Spanish head-on, but this might bring in some difficult allies. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. Take at leastIfni, Malaga, Cordoba, Palermo,andMessinato Unify Islam. After all, it was my first time playing this game. What military ideas do they have? They will then continually build more troops there for you to destroy. I think at one point I just did nothing but go to war with them for 50 years as Germany. Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). It's expensive, and it hurts, but you can absolutely kill them that way. It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. After Military Tech 16 (I believe?) The only exception to this rule would be Russia and ONLY Russia, but that's cause of just the massive amount of troops they can put out, especially with quantity, allowing them to easily overrun the Ottomans in a war, though at a massive cost. However, fabricate claims on Palermo and Messina to make it a lot cheaper, should you need more land. You can also take a single Croatian province to core-conquer large parts of Dalmatia. After finishing up Sicily and Morocco, you can cross the Strait of Gibraltar and siege Spain itself. I was playing as Byzantium and was able to defeat the ottomans with Poland Austria and Hungary in Early game so just save scum until you can beat them. The Ottomans will have pretty good discipline, a large manpower pool and a good economy for mercs. Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. The whole of the Bosporus should be your main target for conquest. They are Sunni with the Shafi'i school and have the unique Mamluk government. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Warfare#Revanchism. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. The Ottomans are in the best position to come back from a humiliating defeat. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. Build your Navy to fight. I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. Find the first and second installments of this guide here: Since this Ottomans EU4 guide is so RNG-heavy, youll likely be running into situations that dont play out as planned. The Spanish AI is fond of expanding into North Africa and might be blocking your way towards these important areas. Call if Uzbek if you need the help. I never take military idea groups, and I've still managed to take all of their provinces in campaign after campaign. Afterward, you can focus on expanding your coastal possessions to gain more power in the Horn of Africa trade node. When youre annexing a vassal, see if you can concentrate land. They still haven't taken out mamluks. It's best to strike if they are already in a war. Fortunately, theres a good chance these guys are allied. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. I always do a little DLC recommendation to make the run more fun previously I recommended Cradle of Civilization and Rights of Man. Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. If Ajam gets too big or runs out of cores, integrate them and expand with new vassals, like Fars, Khorasan, Afghanistan, and Transoxiana. Prussian troops stackwipe Ottos easy in the 1600s. The techs that give morale are HUGE (4, 15, 26, 30), and can give you a massive advantage in battle. Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. So it's 1638 and I'm planning to attack them before they keep blobbing land. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up.

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