These guns take the 1913/1917 bayonet used on the US . ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. Like the Model 97 Trench Gun, the Model 12 Trench Gun used the M1917 bayonet. which is not otherwise permitted by law. NOTE: THESE INSTRUCTIONS ARE FOR NON ORIGINAL TRENCH GUNS. WINCHESTER BRASS BEAD We have carefully recreated the famous Winchester Model 1897 12 Ga Trench Gun using original Winchester Model 1897 12 Ga shotguns. He also carries a large number of grenades. Trying to force the screw can strip it and or damage the threads in the attachment. Stooper Zero, how does the Sarco one feel? Single steel bead sight on the four-hole heat shield/bayonet adaptor, 2 3/4 inch chamber, and a cylinder choke. It for the shot gun ammo, or spare m1 ammo? The top of the barrel is marked with the U.S. (flaming bomb) proof followed by the Winchester oval "WP" proof at the breech. eBay item number: 364104184857 Last updated on Jan 08, 2023 13:39:48 PST View all revisions Item specifics SIGHT. heat shield you want attached to the WE WILL SHIP NEW MORDERS ONLY TO THE U.S. Cut barrel to 20-1/2 inches measuring from the end of the chamber to the end of the muzzle The Army's Model 12 Trench Gun featured a shorter barrel, steel heat shield, and an M1917 bayonet . The barrel, receiver, magazine and handguard/bayonet adapter have the gray-green parkerized finish found on Winchester M1 rifles and M1 carbines. Do this for all 3 screws. Joe Poyer". Close-range firepower became with devastating effects on the human body, was what the Allies required. There are currently no customer product questions on this lot. Trying to force the screw can strip it and or damage the threads in the attachment. Cylinder choke, 2 3/4" chamber, 13 1/8" LOP . ***, INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR BAYONET ATTACHMENT http://e-sarcoinc.com/1907wwiislingwithsteelhardware.aspx. NPRF - NON-PROFESSIONALLY REFINISHED/COLD BLUE, ETC. We offer gunsmith services for those who wish to send their gun in for evaluation and/or repair. View cart for details. With some use, they really look the part. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Click here for more information. http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i202/capbustinjon/DSC00486-1.jpg. Please specify which heat shield you want attached to the bayonet lug when ordering. Mechanically fine. SHIPPED There was no special Model of 1917 bayonet made for the U.S.-issue trench guns. $1799 plus $45 shipping and handling (as of 10/20/22..THIS PRICE COULD CHANGE BASED ON THE AVERAGE PRICE THAT THE BASE GUNS COST US). Lancer, It is said that the German army actually appealed to The Hague to have this weapon outlawed. For Winchesters only, if your magazine plug does not have a 9/32 stud on the end of it you will need to replace it with one that does in order to support your magazine tube. the 6 row 29 hole model from between For additional information, see the Global Shipping Program, This amount includes applicable customs duties, taxes, brokerage and other fees. It could be filled with hand grenades or shotgun shells , either loose or in 10 rd boxes , or a mixture of the same. You means the natural or legal person, or body of persons corporate or incorporate, acquiring rights under this licence. JRB's example is an M1917 Type 1. The 1897 Model was available with different barrel lengths, different calibres of 12 and 16 gauge and as a solid or take-down frame. For more than two centuries, Westley Richards has produced some of the worlds finest firearms, each wearing a timeless and classic look with bespoke flourishes. U.S. Stevens The IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO WAIT AT LEAST 16 WEEKS DO NOT PLACE AN ORDER. The 'Trench Gun' is the most famous variant of the Winchester Model 97. Further context, best practice and guidance can be found in the UK Government Licensing Framework section on, UK Government Licensing Framework section, Content in which Royal Armouries owns the IPR; and, acknowledge the source of the Content by including an Attribution provided that if you are using Content from several rights owners and sources and NE - GOOD- in working condition, wear on working surfaces, finish 40% - 79%, no broken parts, no corrosion or pitting that will interfere with proper functioning, but may have some minor surface pitting. The screws should clear the barrel easily without forcing when the groove is deep enough. Further context, best practice and guidance can be found in the UK Government Licensing Framework section on The National Archives website. UPDATE: January 16, 2023 An ongoing supply chain issue means that we need to immediately put a hold on all NEW incoming trenchgun conversions shipments. In this licence the terms below have the following meanings: Information means information protected by copyright or by database right (for example, literary and artistic works, content, data and source code) offered for use under the terms of this licence. Be careful not to make the slots too deep which could weaken the barrel. The bayonet lug shows hints of a plum patina, and the heat shield shows some dents. With its bayonet attachment a new type of close-quarter combat had hit the trenches. SINCE THESE ARE MADE IN HOUSE, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN QUALITY, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO PRODUCE A CERTAIN AMOUNT WITHIN THE SHIPPING TIME FRAME. It's easy! Like is the handguard flimsy feeling where it's riveted on the bayo mount? WE ARE CURRENTLY ACCEPTING NEW ORDERS AT THIS TIME. We add a correct reproduction bayonet lug/heat shield and rear sling swivel. All parts are copied from original ones and are fitted to our original guns before shipment. Further context, best practice and guidance can be found in the UK Government Licensing Framework section on The National Archives Website. Make sure your search is specific . Use of copyright and database right material expressly made available under this licence (the Information) indicates your acceptance of the terms and conditions below. Perfection! as a verb, means doing any act which is restricted by copyright or database right, whether in the original medium or in any other medium, and includes without limitation distributing, copying, adapting, modifying as may be technically necessary to use it in a different mode or format. You are encouraged to use and re-use the Information that is available under this licence freely and flexibly, with only a few conditions. There are currently no customer product questions on this lot. . Controller may, from time to time, issue new versions of the Non-Commercial Government Licence. Rifleman Q&A: When Did M1 Carbines Get Bayonet Lugs? Don't know, but this just might say good things about the quality of the steel used in the repros. The reason the Model of 1917 rifle bayonet was selected for use with the trench gun in the first. My only complaint is the placement of the sling swivel as discussed earlier in this thread. December 16, 2012 in U.S. Shipped in the white you must color to match your gun. We sell them on our web site. Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. Some special models ( Heavy Duck) are chambered for 3 inch shells and have a slightly larger barrel diameter. No returns on layaways. A. I mentioned in another thread I was going to order the reproduction M-12 Trench Gun Bayonet Attachment / Heat shield offered by East Taylor LLC. There is one caveat, however. Allows for and easier , scratch free instalation. . I wonder if it might be due to the higher chrome or nickle content in the steel used? A. I'll post more about it after I have it fitted to my M-12. You must If You do not accept these Terms and Conditions please refrain from making any Non-Commercial Use of Our Content or any Use of Our Crown Copyright Content, We have carefully recreated the famous Winchester Model 1897 12 Ga Trench Gun using original Winchester Model 1897 12 Ga shotguns. Winchester continued to sell this gun until 1945. liable for any loss, injury or damage of any kind caused by its Use. WILL FIT AND LOCK IN PLACE. Statement. This is for Winchesters only. Comes with 2 wood screws. If you have a Model 12 original trench gun you need to order a Model 97 bayonet attachment. The reason the Model of 1917 rifle bayonet was selected for use with the trench gun in the first place was to simplify logistics. They are not deep at all. The blade was 17 inches (43 cm) long. The barrel is much shorter and extends only slightly beyond the tubular magazine, a heat shield is fitted and lugs for the M1917 bayonet are fitted. The barrel is dated "43" on the underside of the breech (barely viewable). This is an exact reproduction of the classic WW1 Enfield M-1917 bayonet with simulated WW1 dates. SLING SWIVEL AND 3 ATTACHMENT More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. The correct bayonet for the Winchester 1897 Trench Gun is the M1917 model, which was also issued with the Enfield M1917 infantry rifle. Also, the securing bolts will likely need to be trimmed if you want the correct lengths. Johnson. The original Model 12 trench gun barrel is the same diameter as the Model 97. Model 12 Riot gun. On my 1942 barrel date M12 (938xxx serial number range), the barrel protrudes a very precise 1/16" past the mount, including the crown. The Royal Armouries is not liable for any errors or omissions in the Information and shall not be liable for any loss, injury or damage of any kind caused by its use. It is designed as a shop apron with 13 (?) As for the sling, I have a vintage 1907 sling with brass hardware that has that "been there" look, I'm hopeing it will look right on the gun. Though I must say it looks slick in the white, top notch! The right side of the receiver is marked with the "U.S. flaming . Wicked weapon and the most feared firepower in the Pacific theater jungles and the tunnels of Viet Nam. Remove the 3 securing screws from the attachment and slide the bayonet attachment on the barrel until the 9/32 stud on the end of the magazine plug goes into the hole in the rear of the leg on the attachment and the rear of the leg is flush with the face of the magazine plug. Comes with 3 attachment screws, sling swivel and brass bead sight. Read the following instructions before purchasing. IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO WAIT AT LEAST 16 WEEKS DO NOT PLACE AN ORDER. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. It has sling swivels and a bayonet lug, too . therefore listing multiple attributions is not practical in your product or application, you may include a URL or hyperlink to a resource that contains However barrels as long as 91 cm (36 in) could be ordered. The Royal Armouries reserves the right to terminate this licence upon reasonable notice. This Model 12 trench gun in the Winchester ammo booth, for instance, pulled my attention away from all the new stuff as soon as I walked in. One thing I noticed on this repro heat shield is the placement of the sling swivel. This is the correct 1-3/8 inch long butt stock sling swivel for original Winchester 97 and Model 12 trench guns. Starting at $949.00 - Call (208) 660-5135, Conversion Service: Winchester Model 12 Trench Gun Conversion, Repair Service: Winchester Model 12 Shotguns. Shells and have a Model 97 different barrel lengths, different calibres of 12 16. 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